I posted that I had a good time with friends out the past week. In my mind, there should probably be more poker analysis here, so that I’m thinking deliberately (as opposed to my 24/7 random poker thoughts) about hands. NOTE: I am a good player, but I’m probably not as good as I sound like when I relay these hands. And, clearly, the difference between a winning hand, or even a week, and a losing one, is very thin.
Here’s 3, no 4, no, a bunch of hands:
1. Rob and Chris had gotten in with their wives early Wednesday. We went to the Venetian after meeting at TI, to play a little poker. The table started after a few minutes, so we’re all on the same table. Fairly typical weekday morning table, which is why I don’t play much at that time.
THE HAND - I had built a rapport with the guys around me, so that I could more easily take their money. The guy to my right was a total donk, who had apparently spent a week straight staying at the Venetian and playing poker, without learning anything. If anything, I’d say he’d had his bad hypotheses proven correct incorrectly. LOL. Anyways, a few limpers, he raises to 6 in the cutoff, I look down to see J2ss on the button, and decide to play it strong. Despite the fact that the J2 nuts has become a famous hand for a few of us after Collin used it to knock me out of a three man drunken tourney, I usually just chuckle to myself and muck it. I would have been making this move with almost any two, as the “time” was right. Sure enough, if folded back to the donk, who, surprisingly, made the call. The flop comes Q84, all clubs. He bets out 40. Ummmm, huh? I was actually happy with the call preflop, as a continuation bet is going to take the pot a very large percentage of the time, and I’m getting 20 more bucks than if he had folded. His bet throws me off. Either he flopped big (the nut flush or a set), flopped mediocre and is trying to figure out “where he’s at” (AQ, KK no club, TT with a club, or something like that), or he’s bluffing representing clubs. I study him, and he’s not strong. So, I’ll take the pot. I look at his chips, and he’s only got a little over 100 behind. I go into full Hollywood mode. Now, I bluff more than I used to at 1/2nl (due to the tables getting a little tougher, IMO). But, I don’t Hollywood much, as I think most people either don’t pay attention or see right through it. But, this guy was perfect. I say, I think I’ve got to still be ahead here. Then, I ask him if he really only has about 100 left. He seems surprised. I then, very deliberately, stack 40 in chips to match his bet, stack it on top of one of my 100 stacks, and push it in. He doesn’t instacall. I say, whew, I was right. I tell him if he hasn’t called yet, I’ve got him beat. At this point, I think most players at the table knew I was bluffing, but I don’t care. He folds, and I stack up a decent pot.
I ended up donking off that profit and previous small profit, for my only losing session of the PDC visit (-12).
2. Back at the Venetian on Thursday, the plan is for the three of us to play the noon tourney. This will be my only tourney of their visit. I register a couple minutes late, then get to the table to find out I’m directly to Chris’s left. That sucks. I go on to play extremely tight, but aggressive. The structure there is very good, but you “can’t” just donk off chips, because it’s not that good for that long. I take my 7500 stack up to about 10500 by the time the hand comes up. Rob is out (and steaming) after losing with KK on the 5th hand and a big chunk with AA later to cripple him. Chris has been in some tough spots. He’s playing well, but down to probably around 5k.
THE HAND - I am in the cutoff with AA. Blinds are 100/200, and I’m somewhere right around 10300 after forfeiting both my blinds. The old man two to my right limps. He’s been limping about 40% of the pots preflop. He’s shown the ability to lay down hands preflop. He’s shown the ability to call preflop and call down after hitting a piece without monsters. He’s shown the ability to stab at weakness when it presents itself. He was an early chipleader, spewed down to about 4500, and then doubled up and stole some to currently be on about 12k. Chris, who has also been playing tight, raises to 600. I am disappointed. I’m not going to just call a raise here in any situation, but I especially see no reason to try to take Chris’s chips. I reraise to 1800, knowing that it will fold around to me. That’s cool. I’m playing well. Well, the old man calls my reraise. We had only played one other hand (I had raised limpers with TT, he had called and mucked to a c-bet on a A33 flop). But, I felt like I had a good line on him, and presumed that he did on me (you can tell now the bad beat story is coming, as if you didn’t know already). The flop comes 983. I honestly don’t remember suits, so it was probably rainbow, but I wouldn’t swear to it. He checks. Sometimes, when someone checks, you sense strength. I didn’t. I bet out 2200. He fairly quickly check-raised to 4500. I won’t lie and say I thought it out thoroughly, but at the time I really thought I was ahead. I just didn’t see him playing a hand that beat me this way. I go all-in, he shows 33, I get no help and IGHN.
I was mad. I told him his preflop call was horrible. When I called Heather, I was shaking. I don’t see how people grind these little tournaments. I have lost more money without it affecting me, but this hurt. If I related the hand to myself, I would tell myself he had to have me beat to checkraise in that spot. He could have 33, 88, 99, or 89. Yeah, maybe he does it with JT or A9 or somesuch, but probably not. He could do it with KK, QQ, JJ, or TT, but his limp combined with calling a reraise make it unlikely. I will say that despite that analysis, I don’t hate my play. Chris was supportive, saying he agreed with getting it in there, but he might have just been being nice. I think the best line probably would have been to call the check-raise to see if he was serious on the turn, as I’d seen him check down big pots. Folding wouldn’t have been horrible, as it leaves me with plenty of chips. I don’t know. I’m trying to forget about it. LOL.
3. I stew for a bit, then decide I’m ok to play cash games until Chris gets knocked out (hopefully late). The table, like Wednesday afternoon, is pretty tight. I’m passing time here, folding out of position, raising in position, taking flops and folding when I don’t hit. I’m down a little, so I buy another 100 (originally in for 200). I’m sitting on about 240.
THE HAND - I get 22 in the small blind. One limp to a middle position guy who likes to raise, but I’ve seen him call when clearly behind only to suck out and double. I’ve seen unable to get away from AA when someone had a set (or should have, they had QQ and donked their stack away, lol). So, he’s got chips that belong in my stack. He raises to 12. The button calls. Whew. I might have had to fold my mighty deuce deuce. I call, bb folds, limper folds. Flop come QcTc2d. Wheeeeeee! I check. Homes bets 20. Button raises to 60. I like that and I don’t. Button has a real hand, even if homes doesn’t. But, it’s good, in that now I can just push and pray (since I don’t like to think). I push. Preflop raiserman folds. Button instacalls. Shit. Set over set, I say aloud, as I flip my twos. NO??? He has AA. Dumby. River is the Kc, and he has the Ac, so a shitton of outs, all of which I avoid. Thank you.
I make a little more, and leave the Venetian a winner, even with the tourney cost.
Tom has informed me that he is not interested in drunk bowling, so we scheduled a sushi outing/drunk bowling experience for Thursday before Tommy hits town on Friday. I Love Sushi was awesome, as always. What happens at the Strike Zone mostly stays at the Strike Zone, but it was a great trip, too.
I’m hungover on Friday. Heather asks me, WHILE I’M ASLEEP, if I want to get up and go to Red Rock. Duh. I don’t want to do anything while I’m asleep. So, the trip gets postponed, and I instead meet up with the guys at the IP. We hang, eat dinner, then I’m off to grab Tommy at the airport. Eventually, we meet back up, get Rob off craps and Chris off slots, and head to Caesar’s. I kinda hope we all sit down and get a beer together, but Tom is on a mission and Rob is kinda, too. They immediately sit in at 1/3. After a while of hanging outside the poker room and PURE, Amanda, Chris and I decide to walk around Caesar’s before checking back in on the guys. We get three steps before Rob stops us. He informs us that he’s out (flopped set v. turned flush), tired of getting kicked in the junk, and headed for bed. The three of us grab a beer before they also head back.
4. And, I buy in to the table behind Tom.
Great table. Best I’ve been at in awhile. Foreign guy. New Yorker expert guy. Really, really drunk guy. Tight/weak lady who wants to be LAGGY but can’t. Truly LAGGY Asian guy. Chinese-American kid who overthinks everything (he’ll come up again later, btw). I know what everyone has. This is fun. Except, whoops, I have no fucking cards and no good spots to steal. I lose some when I call pre with KJ, flop a K, checkraise foreign guy who pushes, and I have to muck. He shows KQ. No shit? Thanks, douche, I knew before you showed me. He wasn’t really a douche, but it sounds better. Anyways, I’m down, so I again buy 100 (I don’t actually get chips - it’s late) after being in for 200 originally. I’m at about 240 again when this hand comes up.
THE HAND - Tight/weak/unlucky/fat lady raises to 10 utg. She ain’t doing this with nothing, but it’s not AA or KK, either, as she would have raised more. LAGGY man calls. I call. What do you have, Jim? I have KK. What the fuck are you doing, Jim? I’m playing suboptimally on purpose to mix it up, ok. Ok, whatever, Jim. Foreign guy calls (btw, he lives in Houston, and had lived in Jersey before that, so he’s maybe no longer foreign, but his English sucks so he’s Foreign guy). Four to the flop for 10 each. Flop Q97 rainbow. Foreign guy checks. Dumby chic bets 25. I know she’s got something, but not as good as me. I’m good. I see through cards like that guy on ‘Tilt’. Laggy man folds. I raise to 75. Foreign guy folds. She studies, thinks, plays with her chips. She doesn’t like it. She wants so much to be a gambler, but she doesn’t have it in her. She’s a weakling, and probably always will be. Nice lady. I’d bet money she makes good casseroles. But, not a poker player, despite all her time spent wanting to be a poker player. She finally calls. Turn is another 7, putting two clubs on the board. She weakly checks. I shrug my shoulders, say I’m all in forcefully, then slide the chips and the bill past the line. She doesn’t like it. Foreign guy had hit quads on her, and she had to rebuy. This is the last of her fun funds. She finally calls. I flip over my kings. I fill up on the river with a K. She starts to act like it was the river that hurt her, and later claims she turned the flush draw with her AQ. Maybe. Whatever. I win.
Eventually, I check on Tom. He says, you wanna go? I say, YES, I’ll cash in and wait for you outside. By the time I see him again, he didn’t need to cash out after running his straight into ‘the joint’.
Saturday, I drop Tom off at Bellagio, pick up Chris and Amanda, and head out to Red Rock. I won’t go into too much detail, but I love it out there. I got to hike a lot farther then before, because I had Chris to go with me and Heather had her parents to turn back with her. Wheeeee! Did I mention I like it out there? I then go to Red Rock casino looking like I got in the shower clothed, but I don’t care. I telecommute a ff draft, say goodbyes to Rob, Chris, and their wives, and head home. Quick nap and Alan is in town! Drove in from LA for one night. What a guy! I reward him by taking him to drink beer and lose to me at pool, which we both enjoy immensely. Tom goes to sleep when we get home, but Dave, Alan, Heather and I play 5 crowns (a dumb card game that’s good for hanging out, like spades, although it plays more like gin). I run out of wimpy beer, and decide I need to have vodka and juice. Not a good idea. Very drunk.
I sleep in a little on Saturday, and by the time I’m up, Tom is really ready to head out.
5. We head to the Venetian. I sit down, win some money, get up. Cash out. Tom and I get a snack at the upstairs food court. We head back. I sit down, win some money.
THE HAND - Overthinking Chinese-American kid from Caesar’s is at the other end of the table (4 seat, I’m in the
. I limp in MP with 68dd. I love limpy tables, obviously. A couple more limpers to the kid, who is in the sb, and raises to 16. BB calls, two limpers call, ok, I’m calling, two more limpers call. Six way pot for 16. Awesome. Flop is K84, two diamonds. Kid bets 60. Thanks for defining your hand, kid. I know he has either AA, or AK. No range necessary. Folds to me, I push for about 270. Folds to him. He overthinks it, but quickly, and calls for his last 150. He asks if I have a set or two pair, I say no, show him, he flips AA. Turn Td. River blank. I win.
He says after this that I shouldn’t have called his bet with a flush draw. I tell him that I pushed and that I had a pair to go with my flush draw. He thinks a lot, but incorrectly, and continues to mutter about my bad play. Kid, I’m not going anywhere with what I know is a coinflip, with fold equity, with all that dead money in the middle. I’m just not. You may have even been ok laying it down if you knew how I played, as a coinflip was the best result against my range.
6. I’m not in this one (for long), so no into needed. Same table
THE HAND - Lady raises to 5 utg. Her buddy calls next to her. Folds to Asian man in cutoff, who puts out 12. I don’t think he knew it was 5, thinking they had put out red chips to call 2. I look down to see 77. I call, blinds fold, utg lady reraises to 30 uncomfortably. Buddy folds. Guy pushes for 150 even. Damnit, bitch, I wanted to see a flop. Why did you reopen the action? I fold. He’s defined his range. She’s defined hers, which is usually ahead of his, but it becomes clear she has AK when she thinks before calling. She’s giggly. She mentions calling because she’s in Vegas to have fun. She flips AKs, he flips JJ, and it’s off to the races until the flop comes AArag. She stacks him and gigglemonsters and stacks chips.
The guys to my left talk (between me and the dealer in the 9 and 10) about the hand quietly. Both have immaculately stacked their chips and fancy their playing style, despite being losers over the long term (guaranteed). They agree. “It was a bad call.” “Yeah, a horrible call but a great result.” Blech. Just like the kid, these guys think about the game a lot, but incorrectly. AsiaMan, like, never has AA or KK, especially when she has AK. She’s racing, and it’s 120 to win 200 (minus 4 in rake, fuck). It would be a horrible fold, idiots. I’m not saying she made it for the right reasons, but it was a good, if easy, call. I should love the fact that these fuckers around me like to spout off incorrect monkeyshit. But, it annoys me. I somehow resist the urge to teach them about the game. Not like it would help them, or me, anyways.
7. Same table. Between snack and leaving, I only played a couple hours, but it was a good/interesting table, I guess.
THE HAND - Limpity, limp, limp to me. I make it 10 in MP with KK. I like KK, if you didn’t know. AKgigglelady calls on button, utg limper calls, and we see the flop 3 ways. KQ9 rainbow. Check, I bet 20, lady calls, dude calls. Ok, I don’t like the vibe when he called. He’s strong. Turn is nothing, but it adds a spade draw. He checks. I bet 35. Lady thinkthinks and calls, he insta pushes for like 175. I hold my hand up, flick it, and muck. Lady thinkthinks some more while the guy with the immaculate, but small chip stack next to me has his eyes bugged out and asks me what I folded. I say top set, quietly. Lady folds, he doesn’t show.
Guy to my left can’t believe I folded. I guarantee him the dude had JT. Guy two to my left agrees, but says wow. Asia Man thought he probably had AQ. Yeah, that makes sense. After thinking about it more, I may have been too quick to fold. I guess he could have had 99, QQ, or KQ, all of which I clearly crush. And, the only hand that beats me is JT. But, his “range” was so overwhelmingly JT that I still think I was right. Just how sure do I need to be (or what kind of margin of error could I allow) before making the fold bad? It’s funny. Gabe Thaler was on cash plays saying he doesn’t want to play in games where he has to fold sets. I agree. But, it wasn’t really a tough fold. And, I’ll be honest, if he had shown KQ it wouldn’t have hurt nearly as bad as if I called and he showed JT. I don’t know (common theme, huh?).
We leave a short time later to come home for dinner, then head back out for more POKER. I hadn’t ever been to Wynn, so we go, despite the fact that I know it’s a 1/3 game with $3 chips. I don’t feel comfortable in the room, at my table, with the dealers, with my opponents, and definitely not with the $3 chips. I’m off. I donk about 60, manage to get back to exactly even, and get the hell out of there. Tom plays for a while longer, then we head to the Mirage.
8. I like the Mirage.
We quickly get into two different 1/2 games, although Tom did get to watch my table for a couple hands before being called. There’s a guy (I’m in the 4, he’s in the 6) two to my left who’s a douchebag. I’m not just saying he’s a douche for fun. Total funking douchetastic fuckhead. I can barely stand to be at the table with him. He slowrolls a kid, after making a donktastic call and runner-runnering a four flush with the three in his hand. He has a rack on the table (about the fourth dealer in, he’s instructed about taking it off, which he pretends not to understand). Huh? I can’t have a rack on the table? Huh? I can’t take money off the table? Huh? I bet two into a pot of 30. I hold my cards in the air for the people around me to look at. I make stupid comments constantly. Really stupid comments, most of which don’t even make sense. But, I make them loudly. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I hate this douche all over again.
So, anyways, I bide my time. I’m not getting into a hand with douchefuck without the goods, because he’s an aggressive douch.
THE HANDS - I get AK and limp. He makes it 6. Bunch of callers. Flop KJ4. I bet 26 (he liked to bet x6, so I wanted to keep him comfortable, without the option of checking behind). He says 36. Huh? It’s 26? I call. HU to the turn. It’s a J. That sucks. I check. He bets 50. I insta call. River 4. That sucks. I check. He thinks and eventually checks. At this point, I two somethings I never do. I do the “you flip your hand first” douchedance. I eventually show, but tell the dealer I want to see his cards. Huh? You ain’t seeing my cards. In the muck. Dealer turns them over. Dealer explains that I can see them. Good guy in the 9 explains, correctly, that I’m allowed to see them but it’s bad etiquette to ask. I’m pissed that I’m on monkeytilt, even with his chips. An hour or so later, I get QQ. Nice kid from the NE area (poker fanboy who also like my Sox hat) raises to 12. I call, douche calls, one more caller. Flop is eight high, no flush possible, no straight possible. I bet 25. Douche calls, NE kid and other caller get out of the way. Turn is a K. I check, he bets 50, I call. River is a 9. I check. He bets 100. I call. He shows AT, and I win.
Game breaks shortly thereafter because doucheman has given away over 700 since I got there, and is now pretty much felted. I feel better.
Home again for a few hours sleep before hitting up the Nugget. Floor guy sucks ass. My first bad experience at the Nugget. We leave. Zero cash games at Binion’s. No surprise.
9. We get back in the car and go to the Venetian.
I played so good yesterday. Tom did, too, but was quite unlucky. Anyways, it’s getting late, I should lock up the win, whatever. Man, I was playing good (’well’, I know, would be correct grammar, but it’s poker; we talk bad [ly, haha]).
THE HAND - I get KQ in late position and just limp. Flop comes KJ8. Checks to me, I bet 10. Tom calls, lady calls. Turn is a 9. Bad card. Check check to me, ok, I bet. I clearly still have the best of it after all. Tom folds (later said he had T9). She calls. River is an 8. She bets 50. Huh? Ok, stop and think. QT makes sense. An 8 is possible. AK is possible. A boat is possible, but would be weird. I don’t really think about all this at the time, I don’t think. But, the bet just seemed weird. I ask her what she has, and she says pay 50 and I’ll show. I smile and say, so you won’t show if I fold. I then ask if she’ll show if I fold. She says, yes, I’ll show. I say damn, you’re supposed to say no so I have to call, knowing I’m now going to call if she doesn’t say anything else. I count it out, and call. She says it’s mine, I flip, she nods, says she missed her flush, and mucks. I win.
I will say that I love this question. If you ask if they’ll show if you fold, you should probably fold when they say no and call when they say yes. This question alone has won me two big pots in the last month. You do have to be careful, as Tom pointed out when I explained it to him. Some people, especially those you’ve built up a rapport with, want to be liked and avoid conflict, and will show you a winner if you ask them this question. But, then, if you’re a winning player, you’ll be able to pretty easily assess which is which.